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Οι Δηλώσεις που σόκαραν την FYROM!!

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Αποστομωτικές Δηλώσεις των τελευταίων χρόνων από Ξένους Πολιτικούς, Ιστορικούς και άλλους Διανοούμενους για την FYROM!!

Greece has given immense support to FYROM and helped it regarding its future accession of the EU. I consider it wrong for any state to usurp and steal the symbol of the civilization and culture of other peoples.[..]For all of us who love History, and know History, Macedonia is as Greek as the Acropolis

Mike Rann Premier of South Australia, May 2007



[..]our government will remain firm and unswerving in our support for your cause. It is important because no one is entitled to steal another nation’s history or culture. We have a leader in Mr Ivanov who is stirring up trouble in the most dangerous way.




Mike Rann Premier of South Australia, November 2009



FYROM is the LEAST STABLE STATE and also the MOST ARTIFICIAL one in the Balkans[..] an A-R-T-I-F-I-C-I-A-L CREATION OF THE GREAT POWERS. The process started in 1870, with the setting up of Bulgaria’s Orthodox exarchate, which led to the establishment of the Bulgarian state and, later on, the signing of the Treaty of Santo Stefano, which paved the way for such an extension of the Bulgarian state as to threaten the existence of its neighbors. That was remedied at the Berlin Congress which limited its expansion by creating a buffer state [FYROM] in the Balkans. [...] the ‘Macedonian’ encyclopedia is a political, not historical, document in a country that has yet to find its identity and name.


Albanian historian Dritan Egro, Panorama (Tirana 20 Sep 09 p 5).




They get into the dark corners of nationalism to humiliate one nation in order to promote another nation. Nationalism, however, is very dangerous for science.Their encyclopedia is evidence of an IMMATURE NATION laboring under internal problems and UNABLE TO FIND ITS IDENTITY, it is also an expression of NAIVE and VULGAR NATIONALISM.

Beqir Meta, director of the Institute of History, Panorama (Tirana 20 Sep 09 p 5).



These [pseudoMacedonian encyclopaedia] are chauvinist Slav theses, which the “Macedonian” academicians, who suffer from certain complexes about their history, have borrowed [from their Serb counterparts].

Kasem Bicoku, director of the Museum of National History, Panorama (Tirana 20 Sep 09 p 5).



The publication of the “Encyclopedia” by the “Macedonian” Academy of Science and Arts is yet another indication of the returning wave of nationalism in this country. What makes its publication even more scandalous is that the Encyclopedia was funded by the “Macedonian” Government, that is, also with the Albanian taxpayers’ money. [..]On the other hand, the world historiography widely accepts that old Macedonians had embraced the Hellenic culture and fully assimilated in this civilization. Therefore, it is clear that today’s “Macedonians” have no ethnic, cultural, or linguistic links with those the Macedonians of the Antiquity. [..] The very fact that Macedonia has failed to make a step forward in the EU integration process shows the failure on the part of the Gruevski-led government to carry through the necessary political, economic, legal, and administrative reforms. Instead, Gruevski has preferred to step up nationalistic rhetoric, especially after the Greek veto

He [Gruevski] himself, along with his politics, the mad ideas about the country’s antiquization, and the open hostility toward everybody who is not loyal to his ideology and reign acted as the yeast triggering fermentation inside our society

Nikola Popovski, Skopje Dnevnik 24 Sep 09 p 11



This attempt to impose such an ETHNO-XENOPHOBIC INTERPRETATION of “Macedonian” history definitively reveals that the ETHNIC NATIONALITY COMPLEX IS STILL PRESENT TO A GREAT EXTENT. [..]this phenomenon is a natural consequence of the expansion of AGGRESIVE AND XENOPHOBIC NATIONALISM, wrapped up in patriotic populism, which has been PROMOTED THROUGH THE MEDIA AND FORMAL DISCOURSE for quite some time now

Petar Arsoski, MA degree in Political Science, Skopje

Utrinski Vesnik, 24 Sep 09, p 13


The “Macedonian” national identity is being lost with every passing day. The ruling elites’ tries to impose a new interpretation of our roots, accompanied by the intensive copying of our provenance and making it ancient, are in direct correlation with the current debate of “ancient or Slavic.” As a result of this dissonant argument, the [FYR]Macedonian identity’s spine has already been broken. Our national conscience tries to accept and process all the claims on our origin without the possibility to reject them, just like an amorphous brain. This results in a banal statement that, strangely enough, is close to the present definition that we are ancient-Slavic, Goce’s-ASNOM “Macedonians” who emerged about 200,000 years ago, before the first ameba appeared on earth. There is only thing for sure here: We are less certain of our own identity now than before we started defending it. I do not know how we are going to find common grounds with Greece when we cannot find common grounds with ourselves


Petar Arsoski, MA degree in Political Science, Skopje
Utrinski Vesnik, 24 Sep 09, p 13



Still, the reactions of the parties, that is, those who aspire to being gurus of our multicultural, tutti-frutti state, are most defeating


Petar Arsoski, MA degree in Political Science, Skopje

“Macedonia” does not make an impression of a serious country on the European institutions.

Radmila Sekerinska, MP of Democratic Union



There is no doubt that those who call themselves ethnic Macedonians could change their history twice a year and it is not business of the Albanians in this country. But, there is also no doubt that, while rummaging through their past and patching up their history with the remains from the past of other peoples of the Balkans, they who call themselves Macedonians today are plunging the country ever deeper into conflict with neighbors, thus holding the future of Macedonia hostage, in which there are peoples that want to have a future that is as certain as their past.
But, even as such, it seems that not a single people in the Balkans has gone so far as to do what those who call themselves ethnic “Macedonians” have been doing: to change the calendar of their past as though it were a seasonal fruit that can be uprooted and then planted back again in any other garden or as though it were a tree whose branches you can graft into any other tree you like. And so, many peoples in the Balkans have embellished their past with whatever they could, but no one has done what those who call themselves ethnic Macedonians have been doing: from time to time they change their birth certificates, amend their grandfathers’ names depending on political circumstances and, whenever it crosses their minds that, such as they are, they think that they deserve ancestors who are more famous than the true ones and that they are grandsons who deserve not just any grandfather.
And, after having made their calculations, they should say clearly that they have sympathy for the grandsons who have just discovered their real grandfathers in the 21st century and that they want the ethnic Macedonians to keep digging deeper into the tunnels of their past in order to prove that they are grandsons of Eve and Adam more than any other people in the Balkans. But, they should also tell them that they do not want to be held hostage to ethnic dilemmas from which suffer those who used to brag that they had inherited the bravery of their Slavic grandfathers and who say today that they are the grandsons of Alexander the Great.

The Albanians of Macedonia should tell openly to those who call themselves Macedonians that they do not want to bury their present and their future in the graves in which they are looking for the bones of their grandfathers. They should tell them the truth that the history of a people is a passport for a group toward the future, but when history is made up of fancy stories, it becomes a broken mirror in which a people cannot see either the faces of their grandparents or of today’s generations. It has to be said openly that invented history is a mirror in which emerges clearly the truth that a people that lacks the will and ability to change the possible — the present and the future — and that wastes time trying to achieve the impossible — to change its past — is a people that is unhappy with who it is and what it is.


Kim Mehmeti, Skopje Lajm, 2 June 09

http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/2009/06/24/fyroms-rewritten-history-to-cause-troubles-with-greece-must-read/



I would say as recent months and years showed that the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ is incapable of taking measures with regard to resolving disputes with neighbouring countries, especially with those that are part of the EU [..]First of all the hate language is just a single element of the hate culture fostered in the Republic of Macedonia ever since 1944 (since the setting up of the Macedonian republic as a federal component of the Yugoslavian Communist Federation). The ‘Republic of Macedonia’ was possibly the single part of the Federation that was allowed to exhibit a sort of nationalism that was employed to handle the internal opponents to the new regime and its ideological postulates. The doctrine of Macedonism was supplementary to the doctrine of the Communist ideology and was imposed with the same means.[..] I couldn’t say – to be put an end to as the keepers of myths and the inspirers of campaigns are still holding key positions in the ‘Republic of Macedonia’. Just to illustrate what I’m saying I have to mention the recently published bulky Macedonian encyclopedia, which has deeply embarrassed me as a historian with regard to the extent in which politics has ventured to reshape the historical approach of representing the past. It is sheer outrage.

Angel Dimitrov, former Bulgarian ambassador to Skopje (1994 – 2001)



“As far as Alexander and his place in the history of the country (FYROM) is concerned, that is probably the result of POLITICAL PLANNING rather than historical truth.”

The idea that Alexander the Great belongs to us was in the minds of some outsider groups only. These groups were insignificant in the first years of our independence but the big problem was that the Balkan nations legitimized themselves through their history.”

“In the Balkans, to be recognized as a nation you need to have a history of 2.000 to 3.000 years old. Since, therefore, you made us invent a history, WE INVENTED IT!!”

Denko Malevski, First FYROM Foreign Minister after FYROM’s independence from the former Yugoslavia, in an interview to Greek TV:

“As far as Alexander and his place in the history of the country (FYROM) is concerned, that is probably the result of POLITICAL PLANNING rather than historical truth.”

The idea that Alexander the Great belongs to us was in the minds of some outsider groups only. These groups were insignificant in the first years of our independence but the big problem was that the Balkan nations legitimized themselves through their history.”

“In the Balkans, to be recognized as a nation you need to have a history of 2.000 to 3.000 years old. Since, therefore, you made us invent a history, WE INVENTED IT!!”

Denko Malevski, First FYROM’s Foreign Minister after the country’s independence from the former Yugoslavia, in an interview to Greek TV



The key substratum of our Identity is the Slavic one…and i provide massive arguments for that, according to my opinion, a column of a national identity is, actually, the language and our language is a Slavic language, or it enters in the group, in the family of Slavic languages.

h are pulled out nowadays are without scientific ground, without any reason. They have a political profit.

Blaze Ristovski, Academic from FYROM (MANU)

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